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Hey dude --

Yeah I can see what you're saying here.

Basically you're on board that looks aren't the most important thing in pickup, and that you don't necessarily need to look good to get laid, but rather that they HELP. You're seeing people saying it's "no factor at all" and it seems over-simplified, or maybe even some sort of marketing hype to appeal to people who don't look good.

The "looks = zero factor whatsoever" idea came from this...

Let's say that you have 2 dudes. One who is a "10" in looks, and another who is a "6" in looks (let's say a 5'9 pasty white dude with a receding hairline and a pot belly -- just as a hypothetical example) and they BOTH have really good "game". So in other words, it's not like the "6" has WAY better game than the "10" -- they're both pretty good, the "6" is just SLIGHTLY better. Barely even noticeably better, but just very slightly better.

When this happens, you'll notice that in a "2 set" that the hotter girl STILL goes with the dude who has the SLIGHTLY better game.

Basically there's this sort of "energy" that you put off as a MAN. This energy is what draws women's attention towards you, or fails to draw women's attention towards you. Looks have VERY LITTLE to do with this "energy" (or "charisma") that you put out, except for this: when you look good, it's easier to RATIONALIZE IN YOUR BRAIN that you are ENTITLED to act like this.

Regardless, I definitely agree that looks can be a form of value. They don't hurt, and they can also help -- with "sevens" and "eights" and maybe SOME "nines".

With truly stand-out beautiful women, particularly 22 years old and up, I've found that they have no factor at all because the girls are very apathetic about looks. These girls tend to go for eccentric "ultra type A" personalities -- looks usually aren't remotely noticed because they live in a bizarre universe that most of us can't relate to.

This is one of the most highly counter-intuitive aspects of the game: if your looks are holding you back, become more entitled, more over the top, and focus on approaching the most STUNNING women. To do this requires you to get access to more exclusive venues, or to live in a city where you can meet these girls in regular locations -- funny enough, that's generally the hard part for most dudes.

Anyway this is probably one of my nerdiest replies ever -- and that says a lot, coming from ME.

Looks are very helpful if you don't know game and relate to women as a "friend to a friend". There's really nothing else going on that can get you laid if you're relating that way. OTOH if you're relating the way we teach at RSD then it has no factor -- like literally none, to the point that if I'm 1% more "on point" than Julien the girls give me the attention, or vice versa.


If I have time to do this I'm considering making an infield compilation of all the compliments I get on a nightly basis...

"You're soooo handsome..."

"You're so handsome for a ginger. I normally hate gingers but you're soooo cute...."

"You're pale. Kinda gross. But I like it. It's hot. Like creepishly hot."

"You know you're hot. You know you can fuck any girl in here. Why do you even like me?"

"You must have fucked hundreds of women..."

"I love how you're not too tall. We can kiss so easily..."

"You are CUTE. And the worse part is you KNOW you're cute."

"I know you're not going to call me. You do this all the time. You're onto the next..." (from hot girls I've just slept with)

"You're rich I can tell..." (girls rationalizing my confidence since I'm not traditionally good looking)

"Are you even capable of having a girlfriend?" (girls assuming I get laid so much I could never be in a relationship -- again I find this so funny they just assume this when they're way better looking than I am)

Etc etc. Infield examples would be like from the 8 minute mark in this vid, "you're kinda hot, you're turning me on, meet me later" blah blah...


Then again I also get...

"You're not hot enough for her, go away!"

"I wouldn't date a guy who looks like you, I only fuck hot guys..." (I also get this directly before sex though)

"You're going BALD? How old are you? I feel bad for you."

"Does this EVER work for you?" (implying I never get laid)

"You're a short small guy. You look kinda gay. I want a man not a little child."

"Get the fuck away from me you're disgusting...FUCK OFF!"

So it's a range of responses. Usually the top ones are from 9's and 10's, the lower ones are from 6's and 7's or angry fat friends. But the odd time a hot girl will say the lower ones too. OH WELL.

Now let's talk about how often a night I get approached. I'd say around 5 to 10 on average, usually by hot girls although sometimes less hot girls give it a shot. Does that mean they WALK UP and say "I want to fuck your brains out"? Obviously no. But they circle around and throw out little comments, stare at me, throw shit at me, brush up against me, etc.

I generally avoid saying this stuff bluntly for the reason that I find the more I brag my ass off (which I love to do...) the more I get this weird "neediness" for this stuff to happen, and the less often it happens. So usually I try to avoid using myself as an example since I want to live this stuff not just talk about it. And it doesn't happen every night -- just most -- so I don't want BC students showing up saying "Hey bro could you do that thing where you walk around and girls approach you, that would really break my reality, thanks man..." Don't ask me to "do" this -- just take my word for it given I have no incentive to make this up, it would be perfectly fine to simply say "Looks help but you don't need them..." and just as many people would like RSD.

(I'm speaking from over 10 year's experience. These are my experiences. They're biased like everyone's experiences -- my RAS obviously focuses on certain evidence and ignores other evidence, like all humans. But there's enough evidence here and I'm a clear enough thinker that it's generally pretty accurate. Just go with it.)

Anyway I may create an infield compilation of this, despite that half of people will find it inspiring and the other half will think it's pure bragging. I think I'd include pictures of my looking retarded, like pictures of the bald spot on the top of my head and other silly angles, just to make the point that there's no excuses in all this. The whole looks thing is so lame from my perspective. Wow what a limiting belief. Totally reflects that guys haven't taken the time to learn game and want to simplify their lack of results.

Good looking guys get laid more easily for the simple reason that 1) they get "gimme's" from mid range girls (6's and 7's, and the odd 8) who are easily validated by a "cute guy", and 2) they don't have to escape "group think" in order to feel confident, they can simply say to themselves "Hell yeah society is right and I'm the shit..." whereas a non good looking guy will have to brainwash himself ala RSD style in order to allow himself to act like a normal cool person (ie: a guy who approaches and pimps girls).

Nonetheless you need to learn the shit we talk about here or else naturally do it on your own if you want the most legit girls. Point blank period. The best girls don't respond to looks very often because they're not validated by it -- it's too "weak a form of value". Here in LA they often fuck older guys in their 40's and 50's who are "type A" entrepreneurs and make millions of dollars, as well as funny bar tenders who are just fucken assholes and treat them like shit, so their "RAS" is attuned to other types of value than a 7 who thinks a "cute guy" is the paragon of awesomeness for a girl to date.

Seriously, fully get over it. Do what you can to improve your looks to the maximum degree and then.....drop it. And frankly to be honest even when I've improved my looks a lot I find I become obsessed with looking a certain way and then I compare myself to other guys and realize that I can't measure up, and my success drops. Then I stop caring maybe get a lil fatter or sloppier and because I'm more "irreverent" it's -- poof! -- numbers start racking up again. Doesn't mean to ignore your appearance but take it into consideration. The main reason I want to look good is because I want access to the best clubs and bouncers are superficial as hell.

Regardless if you're a newbie and you suck and you're a weirdo, HELL YEAH do everything you can go improve your looks because looking weird just DRAWS ATTENTION to the fact you're a weirdo. So if that's the case then improve your looks. Then once you've done what you can, drop it and move on.


Bottom line is you get a range of responses. Many girls will think you're hot when you have your shit on point. Want to know the easiest way to get complimented? Being a non needy, fun, self amused guy who is approaching and making out with various girls in the club. Then as the girls see you're one of the "popular guys" in the area of the venue they start to compete with eachother for attention, and load you up with compliments. Then take girls home and fuck them, look them in the eyes as you fuck and they'll look up and you and say "OH MY GOD YOU ARE SO FUCKINGHANDSOME" etc etc.

Over time these reference experiences build up -- and you wanna know what you realize? When you're "on" your face somehow becomes more relaxed and your eyes light up and you "become good looking". And when you're a needy little value leach who wants validation you become a little gollum troll who everyone thinks sucks. So just focus on what's in your control and let the chips fall where they may.